Three of the main characters in Stave One are Scrooge, Bob Cratchit, and Fred. Each can be thought of as representing the attitude of a large group of people. Choose one and discuss the attitude/group he symbolizes. Use a quote from the text and include the page number in parentheses.
Scooge's nephew,Fred is trying to get his grouchy uncle to believe in christmas spirit.
ReplyDelete"Christmas among the rest. But I am sure I have always thought of Christmas Time, when it has came round-apart from the veneration due to its scared name and orgin,if anything belonging to it can be apart from that-as a good time....."
PG5 K.ROMERO
Good job K.Romero i agree that Fred's uncle is grouchy.
ReplyDelete"Oh! but he was a tight-fisted hand at the grindstone,Scrooge! a squeezing, wrenching, grasping, scraping, clutching, covetous old sinner!(2)"
O.Balmaceda
I disgree with you k. Romera because hes not trying to get him to belive in Christmas spirit hes trying to get him to spend christmas with him and his family. page5 states "...Come!Dine with us to-marrow." and futher down on the page he says "....But u never came to see me before that happened , whats ur reason for not coming now?".
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I agree with you but hes not trying to get get him belive in christmas and santa ,he is trying to get him to get into the christmas spirt.
ReplyDeleteScrooge, is really griuchy and old sinner and doesnt care about christmas because marly did a few years ago on christmas."
M. Douglas
I agree that Scrooge is a grouchy old man and hates Christmas, but i also found this in the book "hard and sharpas flint,from which no steelhad ever struck out generous fire; secret, and self-contained,and solitary as an oyster. the cold within him froze his featuresand nipped his pointed nose ans spoke out rudly in hisin his grating voice"
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Mrs. Nyvall
I agree with you Omar, Scrooge is a grouchy and doesn't believe in Christmas and the joy of it. Scrooge is a cold hearted "old sinner". His young nephew is only trying to brings his holiday spirits up and convince him to go eat dinner at his house with thier family,as it states on page 5,"Dont be angey, uncle.Come! Dine with us to-mmorow."
ReplyDeleteOn page 4 Scrooge also clearly lets the reader know that he doesn't like Christmas when he says...
"Nephew!"..."Keep Christmas in your own way ,and let me keep it in mine."
A.Perez
Scrooge symbolizes a group that thinks they are better than anyone around them and focuse on something they want an dont let anything get in ther way.For example Scrooge and Marly only cared about money and they put anyone down that would try to take it away from them and did anything to get it........"A poor excuse for picking a man's pocket every twenty-fith of December!" I.Pena
ReplyDeleteScrooge symbolizes a group that doesn't care about homeless and poor people and doesnt care if they die, (PG.3?)He says who cares if they die let them it will decrease the surplus population.
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I agree with I.Pena, Marley and Scrooge do only care about money,but they worked good together and it wasn't all about the money it was about being with each other on Christmas Day!!!
I agree with A.Perez. Scrooge is mean and rude, and cold hearted.The words,"squeezing,wrenching,grasping,scraping, clutching,covetous,old sinner!"(pg.2)Perfectly represents Scrooge and how he treats people and Christmas.His nephew is just trying to change Scrooge's Christmas dis-beiliving ways into Christmas spirit, but Scrooge just won't listen and continues being rude,and selfish.
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I agree with A.Perez also,Scrooge is very mean and doesnt like christmas a lot as we see in page 2 were they describes Scrooge.Scrooge is a cold hearted old sinner but his nephew is just trying to change that.
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i agree with Ariana and Marisol, that scrooge in (pg.2) it says that scrooge is an "covetous old sinner".Scrooge is a cold-hearted and dosent like christmas at all, on (pg.4)it tells you right away that scrooge dosent like christmas.
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F.Landeros
I disagree with M.Cabra that Fred is trying to get Scrooge in a Christmas spirit because on pg.5 Fred simply states "Come! Dine with us to-morrow!" Therefore Fred is trying to get Scrooge to agree to eat with him and his family.
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ferd is the complest opposit of scrooge he love every thing about christmass when fred and scrooge are having a bit of and argument fred is trying to ask him to have a wonderful dinner with him durring this scrooge said...'if i could change my will every ideot that gose about with marry chirstmas on his lips should be boilded in his own pudding and burried with a stake of holly thru his lots of stuff gose on but youll need to read to find out
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i for got to say that that argument is on pg5 and or 6
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Scrooge does not make good first impressions on people.For example on page 2 Charles Dickens wrote,"Oh!but he was a tight-fisted hand at the grindstone, Scrooge!a squeezing, wrenching,grasping, scraping, clutching, covetous old sinner!"
ReplyDeleteScrooge also does not like christmas.he doesnot help the homeless because he does not see why he should make other people have a merry christmas if he does not have a merry christmas.Here is another example on page 7,"If they would rather die then they had better do it, and derease the surplus population."
T.Tucker
I agree with S.Morrison, Scrooge does not care about the homeless and he does not want to help other people have a merry christmas because he does not enjoy christmas himself.
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I agree with A.perez and O.Balmaceda.Scrooge doesnt like christmas at all everybody knows it, and knows him.They describe him as a "squeezing,wrenching,grasping,scraping,clutching,covetous old sinner"page 2.But changes at the end of the novel when the spirits open his eyes and that changes scrooge and the people around him.
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I agree with K.Tapia Scrooge does hate Christmas and everybody in the story tries to change his attitude towards Christmas, but with all the spirits help going through the past, present, and the future they open his eyes and realizes what hes missing out on. "You were always a good friend to me", said Scrooge. Pg.18
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Fred (Scrooge's nephew) is trying to get Scrooge to get back with the family for Christmas for once," Come! Dine with us to-morrow." (Page 5)
ReplyDeleteAll Fred wants is for Scrooge to be happy and to enjoy Christmas for once.
S. Arzate
I agree with c.dougls because Fred his just trying to get him to come to dine with them on Christmas eve not trying to get Scrooge in a Christmas spirt.
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I agree with O.Balmaceda
ReplyDeleteHe is a very grouchy person but there is a reason why he is a grouchy man you would be grouchy if you were in his position when your bestfriend dies on christmas eve
G.Mascorro
I agree with A.Perez. Scooge is a "Grouchy,old sinner," as Dickens says on page 2. As the page number states, Dickens tries to create a mood at the begginng of the story so the reader can acknoledge Scrooge's personality at an early stage so the mood stays throughtout the story. Scrooge obviously is someone that doesn't know how to celebrate Christmas. Quote, " Bah! Humbug! " referring to his Nephew Fred's Christmas spirit.
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C.Maulden I also agree with S.Morrison because on page 7 Scrooge says "they had better do it,and decrease the surplus population."
ReplyDeleteScrooge is a grouchy man who only cares about himself and doesnt care about anything else and thinks that all the poor people should die because it would do everyone better by them just dieing and decreasing the surplus population.Quote "If they would rather die, They had better do it and decrease the surplus population."Page 7". Reading the last comment I agree with S.Morrison and C.Maulden because my comment can relate to the comments.
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D.Salinaz
ReplyDeleteI agree with K.Tapia because Scrooge is down through out the whole story until the 3 spirits visit him and changes his view in life. Fred, Scrooges nephew has a tottaly different view about the Christmas time and in life.Scrooge is not in the Christmas spirt and is a cold hearted man in life and has a very grouchy attitude about lots of things, but Fred has a very uplifted spirit and filled with joy.You can tell by the way the describe him on page 2 "Oh! but he was a tight-fisted hand at the grindstone,Scrooge! a squeezing, wrenching, grasping scraping, cluthing, covetous old sinner!"
In the book A Christmas Carol one of the main characters is scrooge's nephew, Fred.He is a very free spirited young man that really loves his uncle, since he is the only family he has,apart from his wife. One day, he asks Scrooge to come dine with him at his house. Scrooge, being the mean old man he is, declines, only because Fred had gotten married!After a brief argument, Fred gives up, though not completely losing all hope.He bids his uncle a merry chistmas, and leaves.In this story, Fred represents happiness, hope, and everything good.When he and his uncle argue, instead of going off on his uncle, he is patient and understanding to the fact that Scooge really doesn't like christmas,when Fred loves it,like in here:"I am sorry, with all my heart, to find you so resolute.We have never had any quarrel, to which I have been a party.But I have made the trial in homage to Cristmas, and I'll keep my Christmas houmour to the last.So A Merry Christmas, uncle!" G.Carreon:)pg#6
ReplyDeleteAs I was sayign before the bell interupted me, I think fred is a nice person who believes in spending the Christmas holiday with family and friend to spread the happiness, which is why he asked his uncle , Scrooge,--who is mean person, but to be fair if u lost the only person u can relate to on Christmas wouldnt that make you a grouchy person, and have bad feelings towards Christmas? I know I would be-, to join him and his Wife for Christmas. My textual evidence in on my first post.
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The reason Scrooge is always grouchy and mean around Christmas time is because his friend Marley died on Christmas day.Pg1."Scrooge knew he was dead?Of course he did.How could it be otherwise?Scrooge and he were partners for I don't know how many years."
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i agree with s.morrison that scrooge is evil i found that out on page 7 when he said,"they better do it,and decrease the surplus population."i think scrooge is a heartless old man and dosn't know whats coming to him.T.Bennett
ReplyDeleteI think that scrooge is a grouchy old man to christmas because his best friend,and buiness partner marley died "scrooge knew he was dead? of course he did .How could it be otherwise? scrooge and he were partners for i dont know how many years. T.SHEDD
ReplyDeleteI agree with S.Arzate Fred want him to spend christmas with them like it says on pg5 "come dine with us tomarrow" so he will be happy for once on christmas so that he will not think of his best friend marleys death on christmas T.Shedd
ReplyDeleteI agree with you M.Southwood but scrooge's nephew is trying to tell his uncle how chistmas is a good time: a kind,forgiving,charitable,and pleasant timethe only time of year that man ,and wonmen seem by one consent to open their shut-up hearts freely,and think of people below them.L.Anderson
ReplyDelete"But i am sure i have always thought of christmas time"(pg5)T.Shedd
ReplyDeleteI agree wih O.Balmaceda that he doesn't care about Christmas.He just cares about money.On pg3"Even the blindmen's dogs appeared to know him....."
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ReplyDeleteIn stave 1 Scrooge's working partner had resently died. And the way Scrooge is reacting towards the event is not exactly nice or kind. But the opposite, he acts disruspectful and stingy. Because nobody wanted to talk to him or even seem to want to be of exsistence to him. Obviously he wasn't good company. Here is a quote from the text "Oh! but he was a tight-fisted hand at the grindstone, Scrooge! a squeezing,wrenching, grasping, clutching, covetous old sinner!" A.Romero
ReplyDeleteT.Self I think there is more to it then him just being grouchy because of his partner dying.
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